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♪ theme cenk: welcome to "the young turks." bradley manning was convict day of 19 out of 21 charges. he was acquitted of the most serious charge, aiding the enemy, but it is a very serious day indeed not just for bradley manning but for all americans and journalists. this is a terrible and disastrous decision, the fact that he got acquitted of the most serious charge to me does not mean much. it was a ridiculous, outrageous
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charge that never should have been allowed in the first place. i know a lot of people are relieved like wow, we didn't execute him on the spot, but i'm not relieved by that. the fact that he was convicted on 19 counts is crazy, including five counts of espionage. abc news has more. >> army private first class bradley manning stood rigid as the military judge read the verdicts, guilty on almost all charges, theft and computer fraud, but on the most serious charge of all, aiding the enemy, found not guilty. >> on the biggest charming, the government ends up leaving the courtroom with its tail between its legs. >> the verdict came more than three years was a he was detained in iraq, suspected of leaking a video of a helicopter attack there that killed civilians. he was later charged with the november, 2010 leak of nearly three quarter million classified or confidential documents to wikileaks, by far the big evident release of classified material in american history.
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manning never testified during his two month court martial. as part of an earlier guilty plea, manning explained that he released the documents in order to spark a debate about foreign policy. his defense attorney seen here speaking to supporters today at fort meade described the army private as a young any eave soldier who thought he could make the world a better place. last month, julian assange defended him. >> a good man, the charges are political. cenk: who believes that bradley manning committed an act of espionage. five acts of espionage. who did he commit it with? who did he give the information to? the american people. how is that espionage? it's not like he gave it to the
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russians, the chinese. this is absurd, in sane. he's not guilty of aiding the enemy, not guilty of linking jen crypted video, but guilty of espionage, theft, according to this court martial. he's not going to get a life sentence, because that was aiding the enemy, but i still faces up to 136 years in prison. sentencing begins tomorrow, but he could get up to as many as 136 years. now let me drink in my panel, david sirota joins us, a syndicated columnist and author of i'll take over the uprising and back to our future. welcome to "the young turks." ana kasparian and jayar jackson join us. david, let me read you parts of what he was convicted of, and explain to me, i was going to say explain to me why we
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shouldn't be incredibly worried about this, but we should be, explain to the audience why we should be. part of his conviction was for wrongfully and, a to knowly causing to be published on the internet intelligence belonging to the united states and having knowledge that intelligence published on the internet is accessible to the enemy. that sounds like it's almost as bad as aiding the enemy charge in terms of its implications for journalism. >> well, it may be. i mean, i think first and foremost, the takeaway is that the court has basically said that it's safer in america to commit war crimes than to expose war crimes, criminally speaking. we have to remember that the crimes that were disclosed by this leak to wikileaks, the collateral murder video as one example, the people involved in those crimes, lying to america about wars, they have faced no disciplinary action whatsoever, while bradley manning is likely
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facing many, many years in prison. so there's the double standard there, which basically says to whistle blowers like bradley manning, who, by the way, he had an obligation under army, the army code of ethics, the army field manual and geneva conventions to report war crimes, that's been completely omitted from the story, but what it says to whistle blowers like plaidly manning that if you come forward and expose war crimes that the government may be committing, you will face the most serious and heavy-handed form of prosecution. the implication for jumblism is how canal security jumblism ham if the key sources face such a serious threat by the united states government. cenk: all great points. let me devil into it. u.s. army subject schedule number 271 says that you have an obligation to report all violations of the law of war.
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now, that is a legal obligation, and in fact, bradley manning did report those war crimes to his superiors before he outed this information, so he did what he was supposed to do. in the video alone, the one that we just saw, you just saw some footage of, 12 civilians were killed, killing civilians is a war crime. second of all, the most serious of the war crimes, first responders were killed, two children were shot at, but killing the first responders a grave, grave war crime. then did he say creation of dead bodies, they ran out of one of the bodies and it split in two after it was already dead. ok? he reports these war crimes, as he has a legal obligation to do to his superiors. they do absolutely nothing about it. as david pointed out, in fact, eventually, everybody was just said you're free to go. you killed civilians? there was two journal i have thes, dead, doesn't matter,
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you're free to go. shoot at children, free to go. shoot at first responders? those are like the kind of double times that al-qaeda does, doesn't matter, free to go. you report when what the government is actually doing, no, no, possible 136 year jail sentence. jayar. >> i mean, this is an obvious question, are we surprised? no, i know we're not, but the thing is in doing it, in exposing it, he has to suspect this is what's going to happen after he goes through the right lines of reporting these war crimes to his superiors and they do nothing about it. you know they're going to protect themselves. when you go this route, you think that's it, i'm the face of whistle blowers going down, because of course, our government's not going to say oh, my bod, let's have some self -- cenk: number one, so can we all acknowledge how incredibly brave that he is, facing a possible
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life sentence and knowing how badly the government has cracked down on whistle blowers, he shared this information anyway. we're going to get to why in a second. can i get everybody who said that edward snowden shouldn't flee the country to apologize right now, because. >> yeah. >> what the hell are you supposed to do? look at what happened to bradley manning. he's 1000000% right to flee. >> what edward snow den was start. you don't stay in the united states after you leak this type of information especially when you have a perfect example of what happens to someone who does leak the information. this has huge implications on the media, huge implication honest anyone who wants to be an investigative reporter, anyone who wants to expose war crimes or what the government is doing wrong. why would anyone want to be an investigative reporter or do actual journalism.
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we were lied to about these wars, shouldn't have gotten into these countries and disastrous situations. the fact that we're not allowed to know this information and the obama administration is so harsh object anyone is that tries to give us information we should know, it's scary. >> i'm sure it's always been this way. it's the first time we had war crimes in history. cenk: we've always had war crimes. >> more whistle blowers and they're cracking down hard, which, of course, what there needs to be now is back up from other journalists. no one wants to be an investigative journalist anymore. cenk: if you're journalist now, if the aiding the enemy charge had gone through and thankfully that wasn't and that's a good sign, you would be the enemy, because he would be aiding you in getting that information. that's unbelievable, right?
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but the second part is the part i mentioned in the beginnings, which is that all your sources are going to go dry, because according to this, he got convicted of putting stuff on the internet. everything's on the internet. they're all on the internet, right? if you put it on the internet, then our enemies going to see it and you're guilty of espionage. anyone who leaks information to a journalist that now the government says hurts my feelings, you're done, espionage act. that's crazy. >> we need to remember what's driving these prosecutions, because this illustrates the deeper problem. there are supposed to be equal protection under the law whether in military courts or civilian courts, prosecution determined by who is breaking the law and who is not. what we are seeing is a precedent where prosecutions administered based on the perception by the government of whether somebody is a threat to the political interest, not the national security interest, but
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the political interest of the government. you see bradley manning targeted with prosecution, a harsh form of prosecution, but prosecuting being done. charges are immediately filed against edward snowden. the thread between them is, they are not being prosecuted on the basis of national security, but on the base of the perception by the government that they pose a political problem, an i'd dealingiccal problem with the government. cenk: that's 100% right. look at the disparity here. when the government gets information that they want to leak and leak it out to friendly reporters, including top secret information, including information that we know al-qaeda said that they watched, we have tapes of lynn laden saying yeah, i got that information from the washington
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post, that's ok, that's ok, that helps the government, where as, you know, if you do something that embarrasses the government, well, that's it. look, that's, yesterday, we are talking atrocious interview with the author of the book written about jesus christ. you only got crucified by rome back in the day, not for killing think, not for rape, robbery, et cetera, for crimes against the state. that's what we've turned into, old rome, right? we're trying to put bradley manning and edward snow depp and julian assange up on the hill so anybody can see them. the gravest crime is a crime against the state. meanwhile, the commander who had been in charge of abu ghraib, to be fair, he was also sanctioned. he got an $8,000 fine. an $8,000 fine. the u.n. said that bradley
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manning suffered inhumane and degrading treatment, almost tantamount to torture for 11 months. he's already served three months, but we got to put him up on that hill, because the gravest crime now is if you dare hurt the feelings of the government and the people who run this government, whether it's bush or obama. obama is in many ways a sick man. he says oh, torture, go ahead and do the torture. i'm not going to look backwards. that would hurt my beloved friends george bush and dick cheney. i will never look backwards, if you committed a war crime, robbed the american people of trillions of dollar, i won't look at you, because you're in power and i love power. i am the establishment, obama screams from his hill top, but if you dare cross obama, if you dare embarrass him, show him as the shameful leader of the establishment that he is, he's going to put your head on a swivel, crucify you on top of a
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hill as he's doing to bradley manning. five charges, conviction on espionage? it's absurd, sick, grotesque and it is unamerican! that man is a whistle blower. he showed us war crimes, and he's an american hero. free bradley manning today! "young turks."
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>> did anyone tell the pilgrims they should self-deport? >> no, they said "make us a turkey and make it fast". >> (laughter). >> she gets the comedians laughing. >> that's the best! >> that's hilarious. >> ... and the thinkers thinking. >> okay, so there is wiggle room in the ten commandments is what you're telling me. >> she's joy behar. >> ya, i consider you jew-talian. >> okay, whatever you want. >> who plays kafka? >> who saw kafka? >> who ever saw kafka? >> (laughter). >> asking the tough questions. >> chris brown, i mean you wouldn't let one of your daughters go out with him. >> absolutely not. >> you would rather deal with ahmadinejad then me? >> absolutely! >> (singing) >> i take lipitor, thats it. >> are you improving your lips? >> (laughter). >> when she's talking, you never
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know where the conversation is going to go. >> it looks like anthony wiener is throwing his hat in the ring. >> his what in the ring? >> his hat. >> always outspoken, joy behar. >> and the best part is that current will let me say anything. what the hell were they thinking? >> only on current tv. cenk: all right, we are back on "the young turks." now on to a lighter topic, economic grand bargain deals. all right, president obama was visiting an amazon distribution center in tennessee today, and he has a new grand bargain that he'd like to offer the republicans. i'm sure it's going to go along swimmingly. so here he is, laying out his plan. >> i'm willing to simplify our tax code, close those loopholes, end in septemberives to ship job overseas, lower the taxes for
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businesses creating jobs right here in america, provide tax incentives for manufactures that bring jobs home to the united states. let's simplify taxes for small business owners, give them in septemberives to invest so they can spend less time filling out complicated forms, more time expanding and hiring. i'm willing to do all that that should help businesses and help them grow, but if we're going to give businesses a better deal, then we're also going to have to give workers a better deal, too. cenk: all right, i'm curious what you all think of this, and i've got my panel here, ana kasparian and jayar jackson, was, catch them every night at "the young turks." david sirota, the uprising, we call him here, the title of one of his books. of course histrionic and full of demagoguery, let's discuss whether it is a good plan. it lowers corporate tax rates to
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28% for some in manufacturing, all the way down to 25%. they say they take away some of the loopholes, my guess is they'll reinsert them in a couple years when we're not looking, but in return, he'd like $50 billion in infrastructure spending. david, what's your take on the plan? >> my take is about the corporate tax rate. i mean, the talking points that president obama is working from is that america has the highest corporate tax rate in the trulyized world and technically, it does, they rhettly object the books, it does, but america has the lowest effective tax rate. there's an official tax rate and then the loopholes that brings that tax rate in practice for businesses down to the second lowest tax rate in the world. at the time of deficits, my question is why don't we close the loopholes and make the corporate tax rate actually what it's supposed to be before we start further lowering the corporate tax rate and
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potentially creating more revenue problems for ourselves. to me, the problem here is the assumption of a talking point, a right wing talking point that we have the highest corporate tax rate in the world, the assumption of that as a justification to further potentially lower that corporate tax rate. cenk: guys, we've been doing the show together for a long time. every time someone wants to lower the tax rate, it's pretty easy. anytime you want to raise the tax rate, it's a herculean task. we got back 5% of the bush tax cuts under obama and everybody was like whoa, wow, look at that. it was seen at some gigantic accomplishment. do you think if we lower the corporate tax rate now, we'll be able to raise it later if they insert loopholes? >> i see this speech as a huge handout for corporations. i don't believe for a second that obama who gets funded by
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these corporations and politicians that get funded by these corporations going to attempt to get rid of corporate tax loopholes. i love that david point out that we do have the second lowest effective corporate tax rated in the world. i hate when people make the argument that we have the highest corporate tax rate. so many loopholes. sure, they might get rid of the loopholes. cenk: i don't even believe that. >> i think this is the type of speech corporations love, a huge handout to corporations. all they're hearing is that their tax rate will be lower. >> it's in a perfect world. it's what we wish america was the way we actually operated. if you lower the corporate tax rate 228, awesome if they're paying 28. cenk: if they're actually going to pay 28. >> we'll be able to take the 28 and put it into intra structure, schools, the job market and rebuild our economy that's been destroyed. i would take that. when people hear that, they go
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that's awesome, when the people who are educated to a certain level and say our corporate tax rate is zero. again, i don't believe that it would happen, the loophole part would happen at all. cenk: the republicans say well, look, guys, you know, we want to make the rate flatter and simpler, et cetera, and they think this is not enough of a corporate tax rate. >> let's lower it to 0%. all these poor corporations sitting around filing paperwork and filling out these forms and because of that, they can't even run their own businesses. really? that's such a big issue with corporations, they're too busy doing paper work? you're making a ton of money, you're not contributing back to the society that made you as successful as you are. i don't want to hear any of it. cenk: the biggest discrimination we have in this country is against poor corporations. when you turn to the republicans, they say look, then you agree, we take away all the
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loopholes, subsidies, so lets take away the oil subsidy. they go what? no way, no way. then you're not in favor of taking away any of the loopholes or subsidies, all you want to do is give, give, give more to the corporations that already have the second lowest rate in the world, because they've bought all of our politicians. here's mitch mcconnell, the leader of the republican senate, saying: cenk: in other words, lower, lower, even though this is as by all estimations a really right wing plan. david, as you look at that, i mean, isn't this a classic way
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of moving the overton window. >> absolutely. >> good cop-bad copping us to death. >> it's a complete negotiation strategy and you wish that democrats had that strategy on behalf of the progressive majority in this country, but they don't. what mitch mcconnell is doing is setting the goal posts all the way to the far corporate right, so the debate is not over should we cut the corporate tax rate when we have one of the lowest effective tax rates in the world. the debate is now by how much should we cut the corporate tax rate for corporations that are sitting on that hundreds of billions of dollars in cash already. i mean, if you want to talk about what the problem with corporate investment in the united states is, it's a problem of trade. we have past trade deals that allow corporations to pit american workers against workers in the developing world who have no labor rights, no human rights, no wage rights in a wage cutting competition to the bottom, and we have a problem where corporations based in the
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united states are sitting on massive amounts of cash, and not yet investing it in this country, if ever they're going to invest it. that's the problem. cutting their corporate tax rate is not going to solve that problem, and i would add one thing. the optics of having this event at an amazon.com warehouse, in an industry that is known for its low wages, i think says everything about the obama economic vision right now. how sad an economic vision is it that the president is showing up at a place that is for low wage warehouse jobs saying this is the new economy. maybe in a sense, that's really honest, but it's pretty sad. sad. cenk: ok, think about the orwellian words. the republicans say look, the big evident problem we have in america is deficits, giant
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deficits. they say the answer to that is to cut taxes and lower the revenue that the government gets. what? how could that possibly be the answer to gigantic deficit problems. the reality is they don't care. they just vomit out talking points and hope that you get confused and they have two totally conflicting positions and just say to you oh, absolutely, we need to cut that deficit, so let's lower corporate taxes. obama plays allege and when they say jump, es how high. now one final irony, let's go to john boehner's reaction here:
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cenk: in other words, look, he's like we already got this schmuck to agree with us to lower corporate taxes, that's his plan and now he wants his plan on spending. we're not going to give him both his plans. all of a sudden, it's like is john boehner right? exactly, jayar, it looks like we're for small business. can you believe how pro corporate obama is? he is pro corporate, because that's why he was trying to agree with you. >> the thing that continues happening just about every negotiation, after they go to the other side when they're actually not there, you get statements like from mcconnell saying that isn't far enough. an agreement isn't going to come, because it's not far enough. it looks like he's going that far, but he's placed there for campaign purposes. this is all set up for campaign purposes, not actually to get anything done. cenk: right, unfortunately, that's 100% true.
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when we come back, all right, how do things get worse? well, if all the teachers in your kids' schools have guns. we'll tell you that story when we come back.
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cenk: back on "the young turks." by wait, if you want to catch us on any topic in the news, go to you tube and get all the yankees you can handle, if you like that sort of thing. if you're watching, i suspect you do. there's a wonderful new program called night hawk. it's for schools, and it's to make sure that teachers carry firearms into the schools. lovely. who wouldn't want to program called night hawk in the schools. let's go to a local news reporter about it. >> an armed guard response to a shooting in a classroom. students lie injured as a gunman runs loose in the hallway. this is only a drill, but one
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grounded in reality. >> the set of circumstances here are to focus on really the worst possible situation you could have in the school. >> the nation watched as the sandy hook tragedy unfolded last september, which is why the clarksville arkansas school district made licensed armed security guards on campus, the district recruited 20 volunteers made up of teachers, administrators and other staffers. >> this gives us a avenue to protect them until regular law enforcement can get here. >> training will be on going. starting in august, clarksville high school will be the only school in the state to have teachers carrying concealed nine-millimeter handguns. cenk: you might be thinking arkansas, they're crazy, man. that's got to be a mistake, right? you know better than that by now. nearly 20 states in the country in california, and connecticut,
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that's great, and of course, alabama, nobody's surprised by that, allows you to bring guns in and you just got to get permission from the principal. all the laws are a little different, but you don't need permission from law enforcement. jayar, you have a kid. look, i remember when some of my futures, some were fantastic and smart people who taught me wonderful things and some weren't. the idea that those guys could be packing heat with my kids in the school sounds disastrous. >> that's the very first thing i thought. maybe middle school to high school, maybe you get into a little gripes with teachers, maybe have a little more of the confidence to talk to them, that when we find out teachers more human than we think. i'm scanning the teachers that i remember and think which one
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would i feel comfortable walking around with a gun. i came up with zero. i had a 70-year-old teacher, she was sweet, i couldn't see it happening. cenk: i used to get in fight witness teachers, like verbal fights, like really heated, right? if things get heated, and somebody has got a gun on them. >> isn't it strange that republicans always make the argument that you can't trust public schoolteachers with education and now all of a sudden we're going to trust them with guns. >> what they're going to throw at you, the mysterious night hawk training, i don't want to judge you by their cover, but i wouldn't trust them. the list of teachers, administrators and other staffers, who's that? cenk: the lunch lady. >> lunch lady's packing. cenk: here's the meat loaf and if you get out of line, i got a nine-millimeter. one other thing that crossed my
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mind here, george zimmerman, why? why in the world, right? because when you have a gun, you can't wait to use it. that was the problem with zimmerman. we talk about america's scariest cop in the last segment here in the show. he also couldn't wait to use it. if you've got teachers in a school full of kids and some of them can't wait to use that gun, because they got that 50 hours of training and they got really hopped up on it, they're waiting for the moment when they can be a hero. oh, recipe for disaster. go ahead, david. >> and let me make the point about data. insurance companies, i'm not a huge fan of insurance companies, but insurance companies, their whole business is assessing risk. that's their entire business. they've got people who actuaries, who look at risk, and their saying that schools that adopt these programs are going to face higher insurance premiums. that's the free market, if you will, saying that it is more risky for kids and therefore for
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liability to insurance companies north korea those schools, more risky to have more guns in the schools and teachers packing heat than it is the other way around, so that is in terms of you want a conservative argument there, that is the free market speaking about what is more risky and what is less risky when it comes to guns in school. cenk: david, i want to stay with you, i have a story out of colorado, as well. there's two recall efforts to get rid of two state senators that wound up voting for extra gun control, which, by the way the majority of the state agrees with, but it doesn't matter, because the n.r.a. is coming for them. one is john morsi. i love his attitude. he says: cenk: what do you make of that recall effort? is there some chance they'll succeed?
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>> look, i think it's going to be a real election, and john morsi is adeem leader in the senate, but represents colorado springs, one of the most conservative areas in america. he's somebody who's used to taking the democratic party positions in a conservative area. i think he knew what he was getting into. the recall effort against these state senators simply illustrates to the rest of the state the extremism on the pro gun side. the measures that pass the legislature were modest measures that were supported in the polls by most people in this state. so to recall or try to recall members of the senate, the state senate because they pushed those efforts, simply says to the state, hey, look at how utterly unbelievably incredibly extreme the pro gun side of american politics and colorado politics really is. >> well, you guys remember what wane lapierre said after the shooting in connecticut? if you don't, i want to play it
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for you real quick, because i think there's a new way of craziness. >> the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun. would you rather have your 911 call bring a good guy with a gun from a mile away or from a minute away? cenk: well, a couple things about that. apparently the insurance companies think i would rather not have the gun there at all, right? but second of all, now we've gotten to the absurdity where would you rather have your kindergartener's teacher with a gun or -- no, i don't want toner with a gun. even if there's a bad kindergarten teacher with a gun and a good teacher with a gun, we're still going to have guns in the kindergarten. >> it creates an environment where accidents are more likely to happen. how many stories do we do where a kid gets access to a gun and
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shoots another kid or shoots him or herself. i don't like the idea of having any guns on campus. if you want to make the case of having a police officer on campus just to make things safe, i'm willing to have that conversation, but arming all of our teachers is not a good idea. having better security to make sure crazy people don't get into the school, let's have conversations about that, but this isn't going to solve it. we need to focus on comprehensive gun control. cenk: on the on line show, ana and i had a discussion about sky diving. now that i have kids, i don't want my wife or myself to take that chance. humans make mistakes in whatever you do. if you're cooking, stills you burn yourself, cut yourself, people make mistakes. i don't want to take that chance with sky diving, because if you make a mistake, you dry. if you make a mistake with a gun, someone dice. so, perhaps you shouldn't have those things lying around. it's not just good guys and bad
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guys. it's also good guys that accidentally leave their gun in the bathroom, which, by the way recently happened at a school and then you would have kids shot. that's why. all right, we're going to take a quick break here. if you want to catch that conversation about sky diving at the theyoungturks.com. when we come back, we're going to talk about who president obama might nominate for the fed. this is the most powerful job on the planet. which way is he going to go, right wing or leftwing? find out when we come back.
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cenk: back on "the young turks." just like we'll be back on the "young turks".com later tonight, which you should check out.
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larry summers helped to deregulate the banks, taking tremendous risk which blew up our economy in 2008. he still thinks that deregulation was not the problem. he's clearly wrongs. it should be a no-brainer. janna yellen, we've got one third of the senate democrats saying clearly, it's interesting, right, out of the blue, they're both supposed to be democrats, but a third of the democrats saying it's got to be yellen, don't have it be larry summers, that's crazy, right? former fred chairman allen bender, sheila bear, one of people who knew the crash was coming and warned about it. who was she ignored by? oh, yeah, larry summers. the idea of considering him is insane. new york times agrees:
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cenk: it's got to be yellen, right? if that wasn't enough, back in 2005, she predicted that the housing bubble would collapse. she was totally right. in 2007, she said watch out for the credit default swaps, which destroyed our economy in 2008. in december of 2007, she said there's a shadow banking sector that could do tremendous damage and that's exactly what happened. it's got to be yellen. so, who was the trial balloon put out there by president obama? larry summers. now, he didn't pick larry summers yet, i want to be clear on that, but you do a trial balloon on the guy you favor the most to see the reaction, and they know that larry summers is
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toxic, so they said all right, we might take larry summers. everyone was what are you doing? why would you pick him? david sirota is on the panel with us. why in the world would he pick larry summers? >> it's a good question and what's confusing here is that wall street, a lot of people are saying they want janet yellen, the democratic political establishment want yellen. if lots of professional politicians and wall street wants a candidate, we should be asking deeper questions about why. my assessment is basically that larry summers has become such a toxic personality, and got so many things wrong, that at minimum, the politicians in the senate and folks on wall street would prefer somebody who is at least forgetting about ideology, questions of policy on regulation, at least somebody who got a lot of things right.
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i mean, the markets react to a lot of different things, but as a top regulator, i think there is at least people can see a value in somebody who at least got some things right, and there's the personality question with larry summers, who was basically known as somebody who doesn't listen to anybody, is completely pig headed and completely ideological. you couple that with how many things he got wrong and i think the political establishment is saying at least we can get somebody who's guidance and policy we would at least have some clap reaction with and at least gotten things right in the past. cenk: there's a part of that i'm not buying and let me explain. i believe that some people in the finance world are saying, some are, saying yeah, wouldn't it be nice if somebody who actually knew what they were talking about would head the fed, that would go nice. some people in the financial sector think just deregulate. she is not going to let us
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deregulate. behind the scenes, they must have told president obama do your job and put larry summers in, he's the guy that always gives us all the goodies that we want, and yes, the progressive democrats and i read the list and their all progressives came out and said yes, janet yellen. another two thirds of the democrats haven't said anything. larry summers i don't think is in the mix unless a lot of powerful people wanted him in the mix. >> remember, going back to the segment we did earlier, obama is going to get rid of corporate tax loopholes. this is just a perfect example of how often he's in favor of corporations, in favor of deregulation. larry summers shouldn't even be part of the equation. cenk: larry summers' reputation of being misogynistic. he said women aren't as good in a math and science. it would be awesome if a woman got the job instead of him.
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there's some math there. >> the way these processes go, i would love to see the conversation. i never wanted to be inside of a president's mind more. we were very curious about president bush, but he didn't think about much things. cenk: we wanted inside, but there wasn't much there. >> wondering what president bush was thinking, he told us, nothing. i really would love to know what those meetings look like, why he considers certain things, because he keeps going so may be different directions and it's obvious now we're used to this kind of direction. but now, we have speculation of why. i really want to know. >> that would be great. that go ahead, david. >> i think to get back to your earlier point about the overton window, the other part of this, let's think about this. ben bernanke's vice chairman janet yellen is being trumpeted as the progressive candidate and
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larry summers as the corporate conservative candidate. think about what that leaves outside the scope of potential candidates. it's not to dis janet yellen, but a candidate who is a much more progressive candidate, with different ideas entirely about regulation is essentially not even part of the conversation. part of the calculation may be lets create a set of parameters around this debate that doesn't let anybody within the realm of possibility of being appointed to this position, who may have fundamentally different ideas than what's between janet yellen and ben bernanke over here and larry summers over there. there's not that huge a gap there. cenk: david, if you're right, i want to be in the room jayar described even more where they cook up the strategy. we want yellen, and she's pretty
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far right, let's throw larry summers out there and have people wig out and say fine, we'll give you larry yellen. shall we go with yellen or mitt romney. we're going to take a quick break. when we come back, america's scariest cops. you'll agree with us when we show you.
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cenk: crazy cops. back on "the young turks." mark kessler is the head of gill berton police departments. he believes that all liberals are lib tards, vile creatures and insane. there's a chance he's insane. he's made some you tube videos. lets show you one of them to start off.
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>> you get that? you get that one? huh? you bunch of -- just in case you missed that, i have another message for you. [ gunfire ] >> how about that? oh, it's getting better, isn't it? i'm really hurting some feelings today. grow a pair of balls. oh, chief kessler said the f word, i'm going to say it again. cenk: this guy is such an awesome idiot. on a radio show, they asked him hey, would you be willing to protect democrats and liberals? i mean, you're the police chief. he said sure i would, but he said, the founding fathers would have shot the liberals first. how is this guy not fired yet? you ready for the best part of the story? one of our listeners on the young turks.com joshua silva
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sent me a story this morning. turns out in 2007, this evennous was involved in an alter case as a bar and shot someone. you know who he shot? himself. libtard? he's like i got -- oh, no. he shot his left hand. the article talks about he was in a lot of pain. yeah, i guess. that's what happens when you shoot yourself, jackass. now, let me turn to our esteemed panel here. ana, if you're in that town as a liberal, do you feel safe with this guy in charge? >> i do not feel safe and this is not a p.c. way of handling this conversation, but as i watched that video, all i could think about is he probably has the smallest penis in the world. cenk: you missed this working in new york with megan mccain, not a big deal, and jimmy did this. >> absolutely. anyone who wants to prove that
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they're that manly and tough, like they're overcompensating for something. >> even did a cross reach in the middle of it. >> you like that? you like that? >> we don't like that. >> he brought it up, yeah, get some balls on you. cenk: constantly referring to it. you got some balls on you? i don't. you got some balls? i need some. he's not done. that wasn't the only video. it's t.v., we bleeped out all the insane cursing he's doing. watch. >> let me show you my target first. we've got nancy pelosi over here today. nancy paid us a visit today. she wanted to come up and meet chief kessler, so i took her photograph and i hung it up. so here we have nancy pelosi with her gavel when she was speaker of the house, ok? this is what most of our
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congressmen and women and senators look like without their plastic surgery and makeup. i just wanted to point that out to you. so, we have a bad guy here, we have nancy here, coming at me with a hammer. we have a bad guy over here, he's probably around or he's armed, ok? what are we going to do first? we're going to take out the bad guy. ok? bang. we're going to take him out, come over here, give two to nancy, then we're going to put two in her face. i'm going to go back and put one in his face. ok? that's what you're going to do. then you're going to check it out, make sure nobody else is attacking you. let me show you that one more time, all right? going to use nancy. nancy is coming at me with her hammer. she's all what could out. she didn't take her meds today. draw, put two right into her.
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right in the center mass. then you're oh going to come out, shoot her in her face two more times if that if she's still coming, put two more into her. ok? that's what you're going to do. cenk: how is this guy not fired? how is that possible? if you did this with a republican politician, you'd be the most fired man in america, you'd be in began to know mow. >> there's equal protection under the law. i'm a supporter of the first amendment and i think everybody has a right to political speech, but when you're in a position like that, you're not entitled to the right of political speech without ramifications. this is a guy who administers as a job state sponsored use of force and violence, so i think if you're living there, it's understandable if you don't have a per session that you're going to be protected equally under the law, under this guy's law enforcement. secondly, here's one thing that struck me. there's been this debate over white privilege in america and what is white privilege, what is
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not. to me, in a sense, this is an i will tryings of white privilege in this way. if a person of color, if a muslim put a video out like this and was talking about republicans, talking about the government in general, whatever it is, they would be billed as a terrorist, they would probably be arrested, probably be thrown into -- maybe even thrown into gitmo. it would be considered a terrorist video. white privilege is being able to put a video out like this as a police chief and not be accused of what you would be almost guaranteed to be accused of if you weren't a white person. i mean, really, go through that thought process. imagine a person of color putting a video out like this and imagine what the reaction would be. cenk: all right, now, let me turn to jayar. he was saying the same thing as you were. honest, it's a great point, i hadn't thought of it. let me do one more layer. a block police chief in florida put up a picture of george zimmerman and showed you how to shoot him, you think he gets
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fired? >> and then ask him, would you protect anyone that looks like george zimmerman in your community, yeah, i'd have to, but you know what, a lot of people, my ancestors would probably shoot him first. out of office. arrested, 20 years. >> at minimum out of office. cenk: final thing on this, wimp i love. he said the media had made him out to be some kind of circus clown, deranged lunatic. no, pretty sure you did that. i love how he played the media after those were his videos. we'll come back with one final devastating point here on "the young turks." ç]
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>> cenk: back on "the young turks." listen, we have two more stories for you. not here now. we're running out of time. we'll do it on theyoungturks.com. one is another black man gets shot in florida. unarmed in his own driveway in his own car.
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they shot first and didn't ask questions. those were the cops. and in toronto, a younger guy gets shot. we have the video an that. >> john: boy, you know, i was kind of mad our tax dollars went to war crimes but i'm really mad bradley manning told us our tax dollars went to war crimes. wikileaks and bradley manning endangered the safety of our troops in war zones say the politicians who sent those troops into said war zones. we'll talk about the verdict. plus, i told the fisa court i was concerned about the government invading my privacy. they told me they already knew how i felt about it. congressman adam schiff talks about president obama's attempts to get the g.o.p. to do anything to help with the economy. plus, the top three reasons why the republican party should be supporting obamacare. today is the birthday of cinema great director peter mcdone vich who did the